People lose fingers and stuff in those jobs all the time. They're side by side, in a small space, each person has a very sharp knife. And they work, in normal times, in very dangerous conditions. One of the things that the Trump Administration did during the lockdown was making sure the meat packing industry stayed open, and that industry… The workers are largely what they call ‘illegal immigrants’, you know? People without papers, people who are afraid to speak up for themselves, because they're afraid of getting deported. Do you know the story behind ‘Human Stock Capital’? Did you have the concept, during the lockdown, of essential workers in Brazil? People who had to continue to go to work in dangerous conditions, just so that the middle class and the upper class could keep going. Yeah, I mean, you’re pissed off a little. And I wouldn't say that some of those songs are angry, I think the root of it is frustration. ![]() I know it's a drop in the ocean, my voice. I guess addressing those issues is just like, one more little voice trying to motivate people to move things in a good direction for humanity. I don't have a strong opinion on whether we're doomed or not. Can you please comment on what inspires you to write these days and how do you feel about the world and our future on this planet? Are you hopeful that things might get better someday or do you think we’re doomed at this point? But I feel that you're still a little bit angry on this one - especially on songs like ‘Human Stock Capital’ and ‘Plasticity’. Digital Garbage and Morning in America both came out during the Trump years, so it was expected that you’d be a little more political, I think, and you had a lot of criticism towards technology, economy, environmental issues, society in general and so on. To me, the lyrics are some of the highlights on this album. ![]() So that has a different structure, not like a verse chorus verse kind of structure. Like ‘Little Dogs’: we thought it was just going to be an instrumental. Some of them didn't have words yet, we just recorded thinking they would be instrumentals. We only had four or five songs that were fully arranged, so a lot of it we threw together in the studio. So they didn't move until June of 2022, what made us push back the recording sessions that we had booked a couple of months, and that gave us a little more time to come up with more music and some lyrics. We thought it was going to be in October 2021, but Australia was still shut down, so they decided just to stay in Seattle through the school year. We had some riffs from before the pandemic, and we were at a deadline, because Guy was going to move. I talked to Steve a few months before you guys got together to start working on it and he said he believed the process would be pretty quick, since you weren't able to play for a long time, because of the pandemic, and you guys had lots of ideas. Tell me about the making of the new album, Plastic Eternity. The band's 11th album, Plastic Eternity, is out today (April 7th, 2023). ![]() Below you can read it in its original form. This interview with Mudhoney singer Mark Arm was originally published on Urge!, in Portuguese. Mudhoney's Mark Arm talks about the band's new album, "Plastic Eternity", singing with Chris Cornell and Layne Staley, little (and big) dogs and more.
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